Yale is the home of a host of secret societies of which “Skull and Bones” is only one.  It’s also a hotbed of recruitment for the CIA.

Strobel managed to snag a coveted position as an “investigative journalist” for the Chicago Tribune.²

Chicago is a city owned and dominated by the Catholic Church.

As a reporter, he’s best known for covering the “exploding Ford Pinto” story of the 1970s.

Interesting that, for this early book he (his publishers) list his full name as “Lee Patrick Strobel”.  There is little about his past but this piece from the Houston Chronicle states his up-bringing was “Lutheran”.

Oddly, when you click on “Lee Patrick Strobel”, none of his other books come up for Amazon.

The “exploding Pintos” seem to have been a real outrage but, of course, didn’t really bring about any substantive effects like criminal charges and Ford recovered easily even though part of the story is an assessment by Ford executives that it was less expensive to be sued than to change a car that was burning occupants alive.

Crash test between a 1972 Ford Pinto and a 1971 Chevrolet Impala.

The story goes that Strobel was an atheist until his wife’s conversion forced him to put his skills into examining the claims of Christianity which precipitated his conversion and the writing of the highly-acclaimed, best-selling book “The Case for Christ”.³

He has a very extensive list of books under “Lee Strobel” at Amazon including “The Case for Christmas” and “The Case for Easter”.

After his conversion, Strobel became a “teaching pastor” at Willow Creek Community “mega-church” also in Catholic-dominated Chicago.

In March of 2018, Strobel’s own Chicago Tribune did an exposé on Willow Creek founder William “Bill” Hybels as having been guilty of repeated sexual misconduct ranging from unwanted advances to groping to an adulterous affair with a woman who, like Hybels, was married to someone else.

One of the “whistleblowers” included Vonda Dyer, a “former director of the church’s vocal ministry”.  Not only was Dyer interviewed by the Tribune but also photographed wearing this unique, elaborate necklace intricately adorned with Maltese Crosses.

(Erin Hooley / Chicago Tribune)

Sources like the New York Times and Billy Graham’s Christianity Today used the story to bolster the“#MeToo” movement: a propaganda smokescreen I have exposed as a distraction from much more serious systemic crimes such as child sex slavery and trafficking conducted by all major institutions of power, including the very law enforcement agencies entrusted to stop such crimes.

When Laughing Pedophiles Lead You To Corrupt Cops

In 2010, Hybels joined a cabal of “Conservative Evangelical” leaders such as Richard “Dick” Land, President of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (the public policy arm of the Southern Baptist Convention) in support of illegal immigration; a foundational agenda of destabilization and insurgency for the Vatican.  Hybels personally introduced Barack Obama for a July press conference touting how “Evangelicals” supported Obama’s continuation of wide-open borders.⁴

It wasn’t the only time “Conservative Evangelical” and Southern Baptist Convention Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission President Dick Land stood to lend his support for far-Left President Barack Obama.  Three years later, Land was happy to give Obama another victory in “Evangelical credibility”, begging Obama to enact strict gun control after the Sandy Hook supposed school shooting, a blatant and outrageous false flag.

Despite Lee Strobel’s long and close relationship with Bill Hybels, he claims to have known nothing about the mega-church founder’s misconduct.

In  2000, Stobel traded one “mega-church” for another and joined “Southern Baptist”⁵ Rick Warren as a “Teaching Pastor” at Saddleback Community Church in Lake Forrest, California, just south of Los Angeles.

A Catholic forum member posted in 2007 that either Strobel or one of his two mega-church employers was happy to headline with Catholic apologists such as Catholic News Service and Our Daily Visitor columnist Amy Welborn and “Pro-Life Activist”⁶ Father Frank Pavone.

Both Willow Creek and Saddleback proudly promote the “Spiritual Exercises” of Ignatius Loyola.

Pastoring a “mega-church” is not only a full-time, paid occupation, it can net the “Pastor” a salary as high as $400,000 a year (but averages $147,000).

What has marked Warren’s rise to mega-stardom has been his purpose-driven ecumenism.

In 2005, the “Southern Baptist” gave the Anglican Communion⁷ a Social Justice message that would’ve warmed his Jesuit friend Pope Francis, telling Conservative Anglicans that they needed to put more effort into “caring for the poor” and “avoid disputes over property”.⁸

He urged the churches to join a “new reformation” to spread the Christian faith and use the resources of “the universal, worldwide church of Jesus Christ in all of its local expressions” to help the poorest of the poor.

A “new reformation”?  —In contrast to…?

You can substitute the lower-case words “universal, worldwide church” for one in upper-case: “Catholic”.

If there was any doubt exactly what the Baptist Pastor was talking about, he made it clear.

It really doesn’t matter what your label is.  If you love Jesus, we’re on the same team.

He said that God uses many churches and traditions to meet broad and varied spiritual needs.

“Now I don’t agree with everything in everybody’s denomination, including my own.  I don’t agree with everything that Catholics do or Pentecostals do, but what hinds us together is so much stronger than what divides us,” he said.

“I really do feel that these people are brothers and sisters in God’s family.  I am looking to build bridges with the Orthodox Church, looking to build bridges with the Catholic Church. with the Anglican church, and say ‘What can we do together that we have been unable to do by ourselves?’”

Historically, the Catholic Church hasn’t needed much help burning either Bibles or Christians but there’s always room for the “helpful”.

In 2013, Warren’s son Matthew took his own life.  While most media outlets claimed the cause was “depression”, some sources like ABC took the extreme of blaming “life-long mental illness”.

Whenever the media puts such effort into a positive spin for a class that usually gets as much negativity possible (“Christian Pastors”), it makes one suspicious.

Two years before Barack Obama became President, while he was still somewhat obscure, Warren had the far-Left Senator speak at “Conservative Evangelical” Saddleback, much to the chagrin of many-a-Baptist.

Two years later, Warren hosted a Presidential debate between Senators John McCain and Barack Obama.  It was co-sponsored by “Unitarian-Universalist” homosexual advocate Meg Riley, President of the Leftist organization “Faith in Public Life”.

When Obama became President, he invited Warren to give the invocation at his inauguration.  This outraged homosexual Episcopal Bishop Eugene Robinson until Obama asked him to give the “invocation”⁹ at his inaugural concert shortly after—an “olive branch” highly approved of by Warren.

Because of the power and influence Warren wields as a “mega-church” Pastor and “best-selling author”, it is fair to ask “What precipitated such extreme depression in the son of a Christian Pastor that caused him to kill himself?”

Any number of traumas are possible which include, unfortunately, abuse.

A Case-study in Rare “Christian Success”

Zondervan Publishing has contracted with Lee Strobel through some thirty books.  A subsidiary of HarperCollins, they own the commercial rights to the New International Version Bible in North America.¹⁰

In 2017, Case for Christ was made into a movie starring Mike Vogel, Erika Christensen and Faye Dunaway.

One vocal critic, however, has complained about the extreme “artistic license” and sensationalizing done to make the movie more riveting.

The movie is being promoted by Catholic sources and has been picked up by the Catholic-dominated streaming service Netflix.

Revelation 13:16-17 is an absolute fact: only the corrupt are allowed to succeed.¹¹

Unfortunately, that is a point of concern for both “mega-churches” and any “Christian Pastor” or figure who is a household name.  What are they doing to make the Harlot of Babylon pleased?

One clear and obvious answer is: holding back on exposing Her.

In The Case for Christ, Strobel mentions the disreputable “Jesus Seminar” which called into question the so-called “historical Jesus”.  His refutation for Jesus Seminar canards came from a book he kept “as close as my motel’s nightstand” during his travels and investigation; The Real Jesus, by Dr. Luke Timothy Johnson, “the highly regarded professor of New Testament and Christian origins at the Candler School of Theology of Emory University.  Johnson is a Roman Catholic who was a Benedictine monk before becoming a biblical scholar and writing a number of influential books.”

What Strobel didn’t investigate was how a Benedictine monk was teaching theology at a “Methodist” University.

The movie is even more deferential to Rome.

A key interview for “Lee” (actor Mike Vogel) was “Father Marquez”, a Catholic Priest who was an “archeologist” in “a former life”.

Upon entering the Priest’s Rectory, Vogel states “I’m a bit surprised given your stellar reputation that you gave all that up just for this” (pointing around the Priest’s office).

He then equates “Christianity” with the rituals and cathedrals of Roman Catholicism, as does the beginning of the scene.

Vogel then asks “Father Marquez” how we can be assured of the veracity of the Biblical texts and “Father Marquez” appropriately responds that existing manuscripts and copies are compared and contrasted for discrepancies; a process known as “textual criticism”.

The Hispanic priest¹² then produces an original page from Homer’s Iliad, stating that 1565 copies currently exist, the most of any ancient document save the Bible which has five times that many New Testament copies.

“Lee” never investigates the role Catholic priests have played in falsifying history for the express purpose of discrediting the Bible such as Jesuit Pierre Teilhard de Chardin who fabricated the Piltdown “Missing Link” to bolster the fraud of Darwinian “Evolution”.

Even worse, “Lee” never investigates all of the effort Rome has put into burying and destroying both the Word of God and any Christian who dared know or promulgate it.

As soon as it was clear that the Bible was dangerous to Rome’s authority, it was suppressed. [italics suspended]

The Roman Catholic Church, when it has held sway over nations, has fought against the Bible and against those who take it as their sole authority.  Only when Rome lacked the power to accomplish its true intention did she countenance the distribution of the Bible in the vernacular languages, and even then she attempted to control such distribution and to force people to read only those Bibles that contain Catholic notes approved by its hierarchy.

For centuries Rome had kept the Bible from the common people.  Even where there is no sufficient proof that this was deliberately done in order that they might be kept in ignorance of the truth, the fact remains that that was the result both of what was left undone and of what was done (William Muir, Our Grand Old Bible, 1911, p. 45).

P. Marion Simms summarizes this history:

The Western or Roman Catholic church has until recent times denied the Bible to the common people as far as possible.  The Waldenses, a party of medieval dissenters from Rome which has maintained itself down to our own time, made the first vernacular translation of the Scriptures which was prohibited by ecclesiastical authority.  Their translation, made from the Old Latin and Latin Vulgate, was known as the Romaunt version; and it was prohibited by the Council of Toulouse in 1229.  This action was not taken because the translation was corrupt but because it was a vernacular translation.  This policy of prohibition was continued, being confirmed by the Council of Trent, in 1546, and by later papal decrees.  Until quite recent times Roman Catholics could read the Bible in their own tongue only when they obtained special permission.  This church dominated England in its early history, and naturally vernacular translations were slow in appearing. … The Roman Catholic church claims the right to alter doctrines and practices, and even to make additions to doctrines contained in the Bible, by virtue of an infallible authority which it claims to possess; and this church knows well that much that it teaches and practices has no foundation in the Scriptures.  This fact, doubtless, has had its influence in creating opposition to vernacular translations.  It must be admitted that Bible translations have often gone hand in hand with efforts to break down this very authority of the church by an appeal to the Bible, and it is but natural that Rome would defend herself (Simms, The Bible from the Beginning, 1929, pp. 153, 154).

A Catholic writer gave the following summary of Rome’s history in regard to the Bible:

The Catholic Church has for centuries prohibited her members, as a rule, from reading the Scriptures in their own tongue, and until lately special permission was needed for each person.  The versions she does promulgate in countries mainly Catholic have often been too expensive for wide circulation, though of late a splendid reform has taken place in Italy by Pope Leo XIII.  The Authentic Version of God’s Words as Authorized by the Church of Rome is in Latin, long obsolete as a spoken language, except in an obscure corner of the Balkans.

(Melancthon Jacobus, Roman Catholic and Protestant Bibles Compared, 1908, p. 50). …

The Nicomedian edict of A.D. 303 called for the burning of all copies of Scripture (Jones, Constantine and the Conversion of Europe, pp. 47, 73).  Frederick Nolan (1784-1864) stated that during the great persecutions that occurred under Dioclesian and Maximian (early fourth century), “the sacred Scriptures were sought with more care and destroyed with more fury than any preceding persecution” (Nolan, Inquiry into the Integrity of the Greek Vulgate, 1815, p. 143). …

Pope Lucius III (1181-1185), as we have seen, placed an anathema upon Peter Waldo and his fellow Christians of Lyons, France, and continued the ban of their Scripture distribution.  “In 1181, Lucius III. issued a decree, stating, ‘We declare all Puritans, Paterines, Poor of Lyons, &c. &c., to lie under a perpetual curse for teaching baptism and the Lord‘s Supper otherwise than the church of Rome’” (Orchard, p. 194).  Lucius called a special Council at Verona in 1183-84, in the presence of Emperor Frederick Barbarossa, “to bind in the chain of perpetual anathema those who presumed to preach, publicly or privately, without the authority of the bishop” (Armitage, I, p. 297). …

Pope Celestine III (1191-1198) also ordered Bible believers and their books to be committed to the flames.  “In 1193, the pope sent Guy and Reiner, two legates, into France, with instructions of the most sanguinary description.  Instead of making converts of the heretics, their orders were to burn their leaders, confiscate their goods, and disperse their flocks.  They were not equally successful in every province; the pope, therefore, instigated the inert inhabitants of those provinces where the legates were least successful, to persecute the Albigenses; consequently, many of the leading persons among them perished in the flames, for a succession of years” (G.H. Orchard, A Concise History of Baptists, p. 204).  Celestine III also ordered the destruction of Bible believers in Spain.  In 1194 he “sent the cardinal St.  Angelo as legate to attend a council at Lerida, who prevailed on Alfonso II. King of Aragon, to publish an edict, ordering the Vaudois, Poor Men of Lyons, and all other heretics, to quit his territories under severe pains” (M´Crie, History of the Reformation in Spain, p. 33).  This edict was renewed in 1197 and “all governors and judges were required to swear before the bishops, that they would assist in discovering and punishing those infected with heresy, under the penalty of being themselves treated as heretics” (M´Crie, p. 33).

Pope Innocent III, Father of the Inquisition

It was during the reign of Innocent III (1198-1216) that the Inquisition formally began.  Though it is obvious from the previous facts that Bible-believers had been persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church for centuries before this, Innocent III systematized the Inquisition more thoroughly than his predecessors.  This pope declared that heretics should forfeit their lives.  He also forbade the people to read the Bible in their own language.  In the year 1215 Innocent III issued a command “that they shall be seized for trial and penalties, WHO ENGAGE IN THE TRANSLATION OF THE SACRED VOLUMES, or who hold secret conventicles, or who assume the office of preaching without the authority of their superiors; against whom process shall be commenced, without any permission of appeal” (J.P. Callender, Illustrations of Popery, 1838, p.  387).  Innocent “declared that as by the old law, the beast touching the holy mount was to be stoned to death, so simple and uneducated men were not to touch the Bible or venture to preach its doctrines” (Schaff, History of the Christian Church, VI, p. 723).

The Council of Toulouse (1229) and the Council of Tarragona (1234) FORBADE THE LAITY TO POSSESS OR READ THE VERNACULAR TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE (Catholic Dictionary).  The Council of Toulouse used these words: “We prohibit the permission of the books of the Old and New Testament to laymen, except perhaps they might desire to have the Psalter, or some Breviary for the divine service, or the Hours of the blessed Virgin Mary, for devotion; EXPRESSLY FORBIDDING THEIR HAVING THE OTHER PARTS OF THE BIBLE TRANSLATED INTO THE VULGAR TONGUE” (Allix, Ecclesiastical History, II, p. 213). …

The Synod of Tarrangona “ORDERED ALL VERNACULAR VERSIONS TO BE BROUGHT TO THE BISHOP TO BE BURNED” (Simms, Bible from the Beginning, p. 162). …

In 1483, the infamous Inquisitor-General Thomas Torquemada began his reign of torment…

Ferdinand and Isabella “PROHIBITED ALL, UNDER THE SEVEREST PAINS, FROM TRANSLATING THE SACRED SCRIPTURE INTO THE VULGAR TONGUES, OR FROM USING IT WHEN TRANSLATED BY OTHERS” (M´Crie, p. 192).  For more than three centuries in Spain the Bible in the common tongue was a forbidden book and multitudes of copies of Scriptures perished in the flames, together with those who cherished them. ~ Cloud³²⁶

Particularly vicious were the persecutions of Christians in England who translated and disseminated the Bible — especially those of John Wycliffe and his Lollard evangelists.

In 1392 a man named William Smith was persecuted for copying the Gospels and the Epistles in English.

Persecutions were poured out upon the followers of Wycliffe and upon other Bible-believing Christians from the time of King Henry IV, who reigned from 1399 to 1413.  (Interestingly, Henry IV was the son of John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, the man who protected Wycliffe some two decades prior to Henry‘s ascension to the throne.) From the time of Henry, “Their blood flowed in a stream for nearly two centuries with slight respite” (Thomas Armitage, A History of the Baptists, I, p. 323). …

In 1408 Thomas Arundel, Archbishop of Canterbury, at the Synod of Oxford, made a constitution which made it illegal to read any of Wycliffe’s writings or translations within the province of Canterbury.  “Detected copies of the Bible, or of any of its component books, would consequently be destroyed” (H.W. Hoare, Our English Bible: The Story of Its Origin and Growth, 1901, p. 100). ~ Cloud³²⁷

In his day, Wycliffe was an esteemed Doctor of Theology at Oxford.  Less than 40 years after he achieved his Doctorate in 1372, Oxford’s Roman leadership would prove their love of learning by putting Wycliffe’s writings and his Bibles to the flame.  Without the moveable-type printing presses like those of Johannes Gutenberg, each Bible burned was a devastating loss. ~ Secret History, Cirucci¹³

There is a Lee Strobel YouTube channel with an entire collection of videos on “Exposing Roman Catholicism” which highlights men like Martin Luther (perhaps an homage to Strobel’s apparent Lutheran upbringing?).

But all of the major speakers promoted, from the late Robert Charles “RC” Sproul to John Ankerberg to the late Dennis James Kennedy have one thing in common: their critiques against the Vatican focus wholly on anemic theological differences, particularly Salvation by Grace verses Salvation by works.

Completely avoided are the critical issues of how Rome is the Fourth and Final Beast of Daniel and Revelation; the Great Harlot drunk on the blood of the Saints who makes all kings to drink of the Cup of Her fornications.

The very foundation of a “Salvation debate” proceeds on the false premise that recognizes Roman Catholicism as just another sect of Christianity whom “we Protestants” disagree with on some doctrinal issues.

No entity has tortured or slaughtered more followers of Jesus Christ than Rome, either as a military empire or a religious insurgency (the true understanding of the term “Mystery Babylon”).

It is important that we should clearly grasp one great historical fact; i.e. the rule of Rome has never, since it first commenced, ceased to exist, save once, for a very brief period during the Gothic invasions.  It has changed in character, as we have seen, but it has continued.

Rome ruled the known world at the first advent of Christ, and still rules hundreds of millions of mankind, and will continue so to do right up till the second advent of Christ.

So this prophecy teaches; for not until the Son of man takes the dominion of the Earth, and establishes a kingdom that shall never pass away, is the monster representing Roman rule destroyed.

The rule of Rome, we repeat, has never ceased.

It was a secular pagan power for five or six centuries; it has been an ecclesiastical and apostate Christian power ever since, that is to say, for twelve or thirteen centuries.

There lay a brief period between these two main stages, during which professing Christian emperors ruled from Rome, followed by an interval when, for a time, it seemed as if the great city had received a fatal blow from her Gothic captors. …

The rule of Rome revived in a new form, and was as real under the popes of the thirteenth century as it had been under the Caesars of the first.

It was as oppressive, cruel, and bloody under Innocent III as it had been under Nero and Domitian.

The reality was the same, though the forms had changed.

The Caesars did not persecute the witnesses of Jesus more severely and bitterly than did the popes; Diocletian did not destroy the saints or oppose the gospel more than did the Inquisition of Papal days.

Rome is one and the same all through, both locally and morally.

One dreadful wild beast represents her, though the symbol, like the history it prefigures, has two parts.  There was the undivided stage, and there has been the tenfold stage.  The one is Rome pagan, the other Rome Papal; the one is the old empire, the other the modern Pontificate; the one is the empire of the Caesars, the other is the Roman Papacy. ~ Grattan Guinness¹⁴

Any so-called “Christian leader” who is aware of these crimes and withholds speaking of them so that they may drink of the Cup of the Harlot’s fornications will be held to account as equal with her.

When He opened the Fifth Seal, I saw under the Altar the souls of those who had been slain for the Word of God and for the testimony which they held.

And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the Earth?”

Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed. ~ Revelation 6:9-11

An attempt to talk with Lee Strobel or a representative remains unanswered.

UPDATE 17 December 2018: What Happened to Matthew Warren?

(Hat/tip the Texas Veteran.)

After Matthew Warren’s death, controlled media leaked accusations that he was homosexual, driven to despair by his “Conservative Evangelical Christian” father’s harsh, extreme “anti-gay” rhetoric.

The apparent suicide of Matthew Warren, the youngest son of Pastor Rick Warren, is sparking a polarizing battle of speculation and accusation between “The Purpose Driven Life” author’s critics and his critics’ critics.

In a statement to his congregation in Orange County, Calif., on Saturday, Warren said his 27-year-old son “struggled from birth with mental illness, dark holes of depression, even suicidal thoughts.”

But on social media all weekend, many critics of the influential religious leader postulated their own theories about what may have driven the young man to suicide.  As Warren has been a vocal opponent of gay rights — supporting California’s Proposition 8, for instance, and comparing same-sex attractions to “arsenic” on an episode of “Piers Morgan Tonight” — many Twitter users are speculating that Matthew may have been secretly gay… ~ The International Business Times

Articles like this are a case-study in spin and in stoking the flames of divisiveness for the Hegelian “Divide and Conquer” strategy.

As we’ve shown above, Rick Warren is anything but genuinely representative of Christianity.  “International Business Times” cites an interview of Warren by CNN’s disgraced British Catholic, Piers Morgan.

Morgan was forced to resign from editing the Daily Mirror when it was found that he authorized the publishing of fraudulent Iraq War torture photographs.  Fortunately for Morgan, CNN is no different than FoxNews¹⁵ and was happy to recycle a discredited Catholic propaganda-pusher.

As I’ve already reported to you, the 2018 “Met Gala” was all you needed to see about who runs the entertainment industry and how “Christian” Rome is.  Unfortunately, the truth was too much even for a Leftist Catholic like Piers to bare!

Piers has also had repeated soap-opera shouting matches with “alternative media” spokesman “Alex Jones”.  On qui bono, alone (“who benefits”?) such a connection seems to come from the Vatican through the CIA (the organization in full control of lying to the citizenry through “news media”).

But Christopher Zara of the “International Business Times” doesn’t cite the original source, he quotes the far-Left propaganda blog “ThinkProgress”.  “ThinkProgress” was founded by Georgetown’s own Judd Legum.  Of course Rome doesn’t make a move without hiding behind a Jew and so CFR / Rockefeller Foundation “greenhouse gas expert” Joseph Romm is listed as a “co-founder”.

In the miniscule excerpt I posted for you, there’s still more spin: Rick Warren—the archetypal “Evangelical Protestant Christian”—doesn’t make statements describing homosexuality as an aberration displeasing to God, he’s “a vocal opponent of gay rights”.  “Gay rights” gives the false connotation of a “human right” that most everyone would consider fair and necessary in Western civilization, but that is not the case.

Looking past all of the spin, there are some deeply disturbing suppositions that seem to be confirmed.

Did controlled media “out” Matthew Warren as homosexual?

The claim that Matthew Warren “struggled from birth with ‘mental illness’” came from his father.  Such a nebulous phrase could cover a multitude of sins, not the least of which would be abuse which often leads to confused sexual identity.

There’s a reason why certain “Christians” rise to national prominence and, from what I’ve seen so far, it’s never good.

I had been unfamiliar with the teaching or ministry of Dr. Walter Martin so, when a friend of my work (Daniel) sent this to me, I was shocked to learn of his frankness and effectiveness in dealing with heretical teaching.

Perhaps more than anything else, the contrast between Martin and Hanegraaff proves that Hanegraaff is part of a Papist coup.  While Martin was careful to first send certified letters to anyone he questioned in an attempt to dialogue before addressing them publicly (as is commanded in Matthew 18 by Christ, Himself), Hanegraaff shoots first, viciously, then ducks for cover—just what we’d expect from a man whose mission it is, is to divide and conquer for an Invisible Hand.

As I stated in my original column, it’s no coincidence that many of Hanegraaff’s victims are premier proponents of the Pro Testari.

Daniel’s comment to me in sharing this amazing interview (apparently, Walter’s last on Paul Crouch’s gold-plated TBN) was that Dr. Martin had all but called Robert Crystal Cathedral Schuller a Jesuit.  He didn’t quite go that far but he did mention how Schuller was one of the only personalities Dr. Martin had sent correspondence to that not only responded but also invited Dr. Martin to conduct an open discussion.  Once in Schuller’s office, Martin and Schuller walked through what they apparently agreed and disagreed on.  Dr. Martin then reproached Schuller for his “unification” seminars which push one-world ecumenism and destroyed the Gospel Message.  Schuller apologized, agreed that they were harmful to the Gospel and vowed to put an end to them.

6 months later, there was no change and the seminars continued.

This shouldn’t have surprised Walter, as Schuller has always been a puppet of Rome and maybe Daniel is right; all but a Jesuit.

Schuller’s “Rethink” seminar was an ecumenical outrage that exposed “Christians” to—

* George H.W. Skull and Bones Bush #41 (former Director of the CIA)
* Knight of Malta Rupert Murdoch
* Larry King.  Schuller and Larry are old friends, when on King’s show in December of 1998, Schuller told him “We all have to find God in our own way.”
* Ben Stein—a nice guy but not even Conservative Jews are people I want spiritual advice from
* Rick Warren’s wife Kay.  Rick would’ve gone himself but he needs some separation from his mentor, whom he vehemently claims he had little to do with but, humorously, Kay admits to freely!

Clearly, what Schuller wanted his parishioners to “rethink” was holding to the Word of God.

Let Us Reason.org states that Schuller’s own newsletter outed how Schuller was a frequent visitor to Rome to include getting input from John Paul II on the “Crystal Cathedral”.

Schuller’s monthly newsletter Powerlines (May 1998), wrote of his meeting with Pope John Paul II in Rome., “it was the fourth time Dr. Schuller and the Pope had met, hand-to-hand, heart-to-heart at the Vatican.”  The article also added a brief note concerning the discussion between the Pope and Schuller: “When the Schullers met Pope John Paul II in March, the Pope expressed interest in how our churches could work together to take part in the Vatican’s preparations for the Jubilee celebrations of Christianity’s third millennium in the year 2000.”  Pope John Paul II also blessed Mrs. Schuller, an act which Robert Schuller said may have caused his wife to be healed five days later when Mrs. Schuller suffered a mild heart attack.  “How could Arvella help but be healed when the Crystal Cathedral Congregation is praying for her, and after she had received private blessings from the Pope and a special visit from the pastor of the largest Protestant church in the world, David Yonggi Cho,” Schuller said.  Both the Pope and David Yonggi Cho are leading millions of people astray by the false doctrines they propagate, and Schuller is perfectly comfortable commending these men as servants of God! (Source: May-June 1998, Foundation magazine.)

The Roman Catholic site These Last Days Ministries of Lowell, Michigan reported how Bishop Fulton Sheen was a frequent and important guest of the Crystal Cathedral and her Keeper—

TV pastor Robert Schuller tells about the time Bishop Fulton Sheen spoke at the Crystal Cathedral.  Fulton Sheen was one of the most effective religious communicators of his time.  In the early 1950s his weekly television broadcast was the most popular program in the country.

Because he was so popular, thousands of people came to hear Sheen at the Crystal Cathedral.  After the message, he and Robert Schuller were able to get to their car only because a passageway was roped off.  Otherwise, they would have been mobbed.  Along both sides of the ropes, people were reaching out in an attempt to touch the bishop.  It was as if the pope himself had come to town.

As Sheen was passing through this section on his way to his car, someone handed him a note, which he folded and put into his pocket.  Then, as he and Schuller were on their way to the restaurant where they were going to eat lunch, Bishop Sheen pulled out that note, read it, and asked Schuller, “Do you know where this trailer park is?”  Schuller looked at the note and said, “Yes, it’s just a couple of miles from here.”  The bishop said, “Do you think we could go there before we go to lunch?”  “Sure,” Schuller answered.  “We have plenty of time.”  So they drove to this little trailer park, and Bishop Sheen went up to one of the trailers and knocked on the door.

An elderly woman opened the door, and seemed surprised–flabbergasted, really–when she saw who had come to visit her.  She opened the door and the bishop went in.   After a few moments, he came out, got back in the car and said, “Now she’s ready for living–in this life and the next.” ~ Our Lady of the Roses, March 25, 1978

WELL-KEPT SECRET: The life-sized bronze statue of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen that greeted “Protestants” as they entered Robert Schuller’s Crystal Cathedral. Now that the Cathedral has been re-taken by its land-lords, there’s no-longer a need for pretense.

On the page where TLDM.org extols the great virtues of the great orator, Sheen (after whom actor Ramón Antonio Gerardo Estévez took his stage name, “Martin Sheen”), is a picture of the April 14^th, 1952 issue of Knight of Malta Henry Luce’s Time magazine which shows the “Red Cross” of Malta Crusaders, a very complimentary illustration of Sheen and the U.N.’s flat Earth logo.

Schuller didn’t just invite Sheen to speak at his Crystal Cathedral, he memorialized him with a life-sized bronze statue of the man in his foyer where no one would miss Sheen’s “presence” coming in or going out of the Cathedral.

The Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen Spiritual Center says Schuller praised Sheen by stating, “I consider Fulton Sheen to be the brightest, the most brilliant, and the most beautiful Christian in mind and heart that I have known in the 20th Century.  No one inspired me more than Fulton Sheen to use television to reach the unbelieving word for Christ.”

When the Catholic masters of the Cathedral decided she had run her course, they confiscated her back.

The below article from the LA Times is so amazing I reposted it in its entirety;

* “for decades” the gaudy structure was considered a “Protestant landmark”, now it was getting engulfed by Rome
* seen as a “shot in the arm” for “ecumenism”
* Schuller states, “I could’ve done it 20 years ago” because “I trust” the Catholic Church…I don’t think Christian victims of the Inquisition did, however

* admits the Schuller/Sheen origins
* note that Schuller uses Freemasonic terminology and calls Rome the “mother Church” [for more, see my column on Freemasonry and the Charleston AME false flag] * the T. Marie Chilton Professor of Catholic Theology at Jesuit Loyola Marymount, Rev. Thomas P. Rausch, S.J. openly called it “a tactical decision”—why not, the Jesuits were running the show (and the press) from the beginning
* daughter Sheila Schuller Coleman is still teaching Jesuit-inspired New Age heresies and blather
* thanks to the treasonous flooding of America with illegal Roman Catholic alien immigrants from Papal puppets in DC, the diocese will easily fill the Crystal Catholic Cathedral
* there was nothing spontaneous about this at all—the only deception in this LA Times piece—it was a calculated victory dance over Martin Luther from its Luciferian inception

Crystal Cathedral Sale to Diocese a Milestone; Some See a Miracle

The deal was a triumph for ecumenism and for Orange County’s growing Catholic diocese.  Cathedral founder Robert H. Schuller is pleased.

December 18, 2011
Nicole Santa Cruz
Los Angeles Times

Whenever clergy from Asia, South America or Europe visit Roman Catholic Bishop Tod Brown in Orange County, they all want to see one church, but not one of Brown’s.  They want to see the Crystal Cathedral.

For decades, the architectural landmark — famous for its 10,000 panes of glass and 236-foot bell tower — has been synonymous with the Rev. Robert H. Schuller and his “Hour of Power” broadcasts.  That is about to change.

Last month, the Crystal Cathedral property became the future home of the diocese after a bankruptcy judge approved the sale for $57.5 million.  The Vatican has signed off and diocese officials expect escrow to open soon.

In Orange County, where a third of the population is Catholic, the deal represents both vast demographic change and the rising influence of the church.

“I think the Crystal Cathedral will be, for us, the heart and center for our Catholic community,” said Brown, who reached the mandatory retirement age of 75 on Nov. 15, two days before the court victory.  He will help oversee the transition because a successor has not yet been named.

Such cooperation between Catholic and Protestant faiths was once unimaginable in American Christianity.

In a rare interview, Schuller told The Times that he never saw it that way.

“I think it could have happened 20 years ago because I haven’t changed,” he said.  “It’s who I have always been.”

The 85-year-old minister, who became the pivotal unifying force in the bankruptcy sale, said he has always respected the Roman Catholic faith and considers it the “mother church.”  Schuller also said he drew inspiration for his “Hour of Power” from Catholic Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, whose own popular TV show in the 1950s paved the way.

“The Roman Catholic Church isn’t going to change its theologies,” Schuller said.  “I trust them.”

Still, Brown’s tenacious pursuit of one of the most recognizable Protestant symbols surprised many, even Brown himself, who said the idea “never crossed my mind” until several lay advisors approached him.  After all, he had long planned to build a cathedral in Santa Ana for an estimated $200 million in response to the booming Catholic population.  He even hired an architect last year.

But he quickly saw the bankruptcy as a chance to fulfill his dream in a different way and began a bidding war for the church property with Chapman University.

In the final 24 hours, Brown said that even he thought “it was all over.”  Then Schuller, who had won over millions of believers through his credo of “possibility thinking,” told the court he could not abide the thought that Chapman might someday use the cathedral for nonreligious purposes.  The deal was struck.

Diocesan officials were elated, with one attorney calling it a miracle.  As Brown put it, “ecumenism has got a shot in the arm.”

The acquisition unquestionably raises the profile of the nation’s 10th-largest Roman Catholic diocese and could help it emerge from the shadow of the Los Angeles Archdiocese.

“It was a tactical decision,” said Father Thomas Rausch, a professor of Catholic theology at Loyola Marymount University.  “Here’s this beautiful church with a rich history in Orange County and an identity that’s already established.  It’s a bargain for the local church.”

It was a bittersweet victory, though, because Brown knew it marked the end of an era for Schuller’s world-famous Crystal Cathedral Ministries, which has three years to vacate under terms of the deal, whereupon the Catholic diocese will use the campus.

Sheila Schuller Coleman, the founder’s daughter, is senior pastor and continues to preach “possibility thinking,” though the philosophy has not brought the $50 million in donations that could have staved off a sale.

“There’s plenty of time for God to perform a miracle,” she told congregants on a recent Sunday.  At the front of the church, a table was set up with sign-up sheets for a “miracle” prayer drive.

Congregant Jillian Carter of Torrance said she still holds out hope.

“I feel like it’s not over until it’s over.  Anything can happen,” she said.  “This place has its trademark.  Nobody can take that.”

That trademark is exactly what appealed to the diocese.

When Brown succeeded Bishop Norman McFarland in 1998, there were 600,000 Catholics in Orange County.  There are now 1.2 million.  That growth can be seen on almost any Sunday.  For many parishes, the norm is standing-room-only turnout for Mass; at others, the Sunday crowds spill out the doors.  Mass is said in 10 languages, including Vietnamese, Polish, Mandarin, Korean, Indonesian and Spanish.

During Brown’s tenure, he dedicated nine churches, bringing the diocese total to 57.  He also appointed Latinos and women to key positions and gave a new parish a Vietnamese name, Our Lady of La Vang, a first for a Catholic church in Southern California.

But he never lost sight of building a cathedral, first announcing plans in 2001.

A lot of plans were hatched in 2001, not least of which was a Jesuit false flag of such evil one dare might call it “Biblical” in its malignancy and scope.

Many have wondered how Rome could have committed such a coup in using a man like Hanegraaff to take over and destroy Dr. Martin’s legacy but I think I see the answer in his last TBN interview; Walter Martin had no idea he was dealing with a vicious, military threat that would not and will not stop until it buries or enslaves us all.

NOTE: I am deeply saddened to see that the man who called me to Christ—Calvary Chapel Pastor Skip Heitzig—has been a guest on TBN.  I continue to love and respect Skip for all he’s done on behalf of the Gospel but I must now question at least his judgment…especially given the ties of the Calvary movement to Rome.  Interestingly, this anti-Vatican blog connects the dots from Chuck Smith to Paul Crouch to Rome.

UPDATE 30 May 2018:

As the Catholic Church pays out hundreds of millions of dollars to compensate tens of thousands of raped and assaulted children, “journalists” all over pull at our heartstrings for the many “bankruptcies” suffered by Rome (untold trillions in the Vatican basement notwithstanding).

St. Paul-Minneapolis Archdiocese Files For Bankruptcy To Pay Out Sex Abuse Lawsuits — New York Daily News

The Catholic Church in their Jesuit-created far-Left illegal Hispanic Roman Catholic paradise of California set records a few years back with a jaw-dropping $660 million joint settlement.

Yet, they still have the money to buy back their monstrosity from their puppet Robert Schuller, and then sink another $72 million into it for “remodeling”.

For more about just how lawless Rome has been and intent upon the rape, abuse and murder of your children, read my book Eaters of Children.